Form 1 accounting 16.07 321. About the current prices of ferrous scrap

The discussions and forums that were not held in society about the conduct of their legality led to the mistrust of many citizens, to departments that conduct equipment diagnostics. The obvious question is whether there is law on the verification of water meters in Moscow?

The activities of organizations that carry out their work in this area are based on Russian law. The main core is the law “On ensuring the uniformity of measurements”. It has the basics, on the basis of which, there is a diagnosis of IPA. The conclusion that can be drawn from this: verification is required.

It is clear that the legal act also stipulates the timing of its implementation. More correctly, on its basis, calibration intervals for checking hot and cold water meters are approved. For the first, it's 4 years. The second must be diagnosed every 6 years. Why do periods vary so much? It would seem that IPPs have similar mechanisms. The meaning lies in the difference in the aggressiveness of the media that pass through them. Naturally, a hot one can disable a unit much faster.

Explaining the verification need in Moscow, lawmakers came to the conclusion that the lack of diagnosis can obscure information about the health of the meter itself. It doesn’t matter if it is artificially damaged or failed on its own due to factory defects. So, if reconciliation has not been carried out, the installed measuring instruments can be considered unsuitable for operation.

In other words, as if they were not there at all. Thus, the law gives management companies the right to consider just that. It turns out that they do not charge on the meter, but on the average rate. This pretty much hits the pocket of the owner of the accounting equipment. He in Moscow begins to pay for a resource that he does not fully use.

February 2004 The metropolitan government released resolution on the verification of water meters in Moscow. It regulated the inspection work. In it, the executive authority, under the pretext of saving resources, outlined the periods of verification activities. They referred to the state standards that they had at their disposal. The instructions for the above already shown by us were also published there.

After a lack of understanding of the legislative initiative on the part of ordinary consumers, the Moscow authorities amended their resolution. Special attention: not canceled. The prosecutor's office contributed to this.

The main supervisor was not satisfied with the fact that references to state standards were incorrect. And the prosecutor’s office did not cancel. Rosstandart could not confirm the presence of such data. But also did not cancel.

The consequence of this was another regulatory document. The verification organizations in Moscow are now linking to it: verification of water meters - Decree 831-PP2012. A resolution of the federal cabinet under number 354 was also issued in Moscow, which also did not explain the operational periods of the measuring equipment, but made changes. The government has not repealed the previously designated instructions.

Decree 831-PP, adopted in December 2012, only confirmed the fact that inspections are determined by the manufacturer of the units, indicating them in the data sheet. They turned out to be the same as previously regulated. That is, in periods of 4 and 6 years. Cancellations did not happen.

But until the appearance, signed by Sergei Sobyanin, of a document of December 2012 under the number 831-PP, the same rules were in force. But manufacturers of water meters recognized that the cancellation of the decree does not cancel the verification work until 2016. The same actions have not been canceled to this day.

Is calibration of water meters legal?

Even after these clarifications, discussions do not subside. The thesis that calibration of water meters in Moscow is illegalreferring to Sobyanin. In the city center for accounting and saving of resources, it is necessary to explain that, allegedly, the cancellation of the 831-PP verifications by resolution did not make them an unnecessary operation. The former methodology, which was indicated before the introduction of the legal act under the number 831-PP, was canceled. Now the verification intervals are indicated in the technical documentation of each device.

Legality of verification of water meters in Moscow   determined primarily by federal law. This is the information above. Those decrees that are mentioned here (354 and 831-PP) serve to introduce amendments and are subordinate acts that trigger the mechanism ensuring the main law. The Moscow government is only launching this mechanism.

Specialists of the SCU & EER have to constantly repeat and explain such features of legal casuistry. Already thirteen years ago, the Moscow government, by its decision 77-PP, tried to convince residents of the region that, in order to improve and save water consumption, hot water meters, according to the State Standards, are checked at least once every 4 years. And cold water meters - at least 6 years.

Over time, in Moscow this became the norm, until once again the supervisors did not want to check validity of calibration of water meters. An interdepartmental “competition” began in the writing and refutation of the issued documents.

Calibration of counters Resolution No. 354

The government decree of Moscow, signed by Sobyanin, with number 831-PP and 354 decree of the state government should not be confused. Born in 2011. It promotes the provision of services to owners of premises in residential buildings. This legal act is also a by-law. Provides functionality to federal laws.

It presents the rules that speak of the transfer of housing services to owners of premises. Already here is the wording of the apartment meter. It also indicates the water supply. How it should be carried out.

The amendments to the ministerial decrees stipulate the frequency of inspections of measuring elements. Their technical content. We have already talked about them. This information is on the website of the State Agency for Energy and Economics - substantiation under the law, 831-PP. They serve as the answer for people who turn to the city center. And he sounds like calibration of water meters - government decree 354. In that clerical narrative, in several paragraphs the meaning of the verification work is shown:

  • You must demand from the organization conducting the activities to maintain the ISP;
  • She, in turn, ensures that verification activities are carried out at your expense. In the time frames that are noted in the technical documents for the meter.

As stipulated in the decree, this is done to comply with Russian laws on ensuring the uniformity of measurements. The staff of the city center in Moscow rely on this to solve the tasks indicated by Russian lawmakers. This is also said to citizens, patiently explaining their essence. They are responsible for their implementation, putting forward fair demands.

Requests from citizens will always come. This is a normal process. For example, many people ask about the decision to replace water meters in Moscow in 2018. To which we reply, such a decree does not yet exist. A proper understanding of the law is really a lot of work. They need to be patiently engaged.

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THE GOVERNMENT OF MOSCOW

MOSCOW CITY COMMITTEE ON PRICE POLICY IN CONSTRUCTION

AND STATE EXAMINATION OF PROJECTS

ORDER

ABOUT THE CURRENT PRICES OF BROKEN BLACK METALS

Based on clause 4.2.5 of the Regulation on the Moscow City Committee on Pricing Policy in Construction and State Expertise of Projects, approved by Moscow Government Resolution of February 24, 2011 N 48-PP, I order:

1. To approve and put into effect on July 15, 2015 the Protocol for monitoring current prices for scrap of ferrous metals.

2. To establish that the prices of the protocol are used in calculating the repayable amounts in the estimate documentation for the construction, reconstruction and overhaul of enterprises, buildings and structures carried out with the involvement of the budget of the city of Moscow.

3. The Department of financial support, competitive procedures and control of subordinate institutions (Koreshkova Yu.A.) to post a protocol for monitoring current prices for scrap of ferrous metals on the Moskomekspertiza's website within 3 days

4. I control the execution of this order.

The chairman

V.V. Leonov

Annex 1

to the order of Moskomekspertiza

PROTOCOL OF MONITORING CURRENT PRICES FOR CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS

Consumer: participants in the investment and construction process, financed from the budget of the city of Moscow.


Product name, purpose and brief technical description

Unit

Price per one. rev. (RUB cop.), VAT is not taxed

applied to the report. period

agreed upon

Ferrous scrap:

Type of scrap 3A.

Scrap composition: oversized steel lump scrap and waste cleaned of harmful impurities (lump size not more than 800 x 500 x 500 mm; metal thickness not less than 6 mm; channels and I-beams with wall thickness not less than 4 mm in an amount not more than 20% of batch mass; pipes with an outer diameter of not more than 150 mm and a wall thickness of at least 6 mm; pipes with a large diameter must be flattened or cut along the generatrix)

Type of scrap 5A.

Scrap composition: oversized steel lump scrap and waste (metal thickness not less than 6 mm)

Type of scrap 12A.

Scrap composition: varietal waste, roofing, pipes (metal thickness less than 6 mm; maximum linear dimensions not more than 3500 x 2500 x 1000 mm)

Type of scrap 17A.

Scrap composition: overall cast-iron scrap and waste (piece size not more than 300 mm, weight not more than 40-20 kg, but not less than 0.5 kg)

Type of scrap 20A-22A.

Scrap composition: oversized cast iron scrap and waste

Note: ex-warehouse prices. The price applicable in the reporting period is approved by order of May 22, 2015 N 55.

Chairman of the Committee of the city of Moscow

pricing policy in construction

and state examination of projects

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